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The ties that bind

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1The ties that bind Empty The ties that bind on Mon 06 May 2013, 9:55 pm

sloan

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I have been thinking on this for some time, so please humor me while I rant.

I try to be a positive person, though sometimes I wander into the negative as I may do a little in this thread.

Ever hear grandiose visions for the future of humanity and wonder if or when these things might come to pass? Colonizing Mars? Achievement of world peace? End of poverty and starvation?

I truly like the sound of the latter two, though the first is simply a 'meh' topic as far as I am concerned. Here, however, is why these are likely not achievable: The ties that bind, or commonality in each of us as humans.

With political and religious differences greatly dividing the masses of humanity on our planet, what makes one think we could set those aside long enough for the greater good, even if we had no other choice? Colonizing another planet like Mars? Ignoring the heavy hitters like lack of oxygen, water, and cold temperatures, humanity would most likely stumble over itself. Do you think for one minute that egos and temperamental personalities would not get in the way of such a grand undertaking? I'll leave it at that.

World peace? I always try to trust that peace treaties will work out, and then one side sees fit to ignore the honor of their word. Again, the ties that bind get in the way. Tunnel vision, or the belief that what one group believes is the only way, tends to slant most peace accords.

Ending poverty and starvation? For starters, it would require governments and corporations and billionaire investors to set aside their capitalist tendencies for the greater good of humanity. Short of a miraculous move of God, I do not see it happening. Another limiting factor on this one is the selfishness of many who are being helped. Rather than taking what they need, my guess is that many would take far more given the opportunity. In other words, greed sets in among those who have always had little or nothing. The ties that bind.

Just my 2 cents..

2The ties that bind Empty Re: The ties that bind on Thu 06 Jun 2013, 11:55 am

onthinice

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Deep thought Sloan.

I think the common bond that ties us all is that we believe or hope in the good that mankind possesses. Maybe hope is an illusion but sometimes it is all we have when things are down. Hope that things will get better or people can change.

3The ties that bind Empty Re: The ties that bind on Thu 06 Jun 2013, 10:05 pm

sloan

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Yah, that's me onthinice, a deep thinker, and oft to my own detriment. Though this is a negative leaning post on my part, I do tend to be a glass-is-half-full person. I agree with you on hope, but do not believe that humanity is automatically inwardly good in nature. That comes through other means.

4The ties that bind Empty Re: The ties that bind on Thu 06 Jun 2013, 11:33 pm

onthinice

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Interesting about your belief in humanity. I am intrigued?

Self preservation is another example of the ties that bind us all. Do you feel compassion and sacrifice must be taught to overcome the urge to save our own self interests?

5The ties that bind Empty Re: The ties that bind on Tue 11 Jun 2013, 6:06 pm

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Well, the hope that humanity can evolve and become better is something that is shown in Star Trek and it is one of the reasons that I like the series. One can only hope that we will learn and grow and become better and that we'll figure out how to eliminate hunger and poverty. That will require some altruistic folks and quite an inventive group of people as the only way to really do that is to have access to virtually limitless resources.


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6The ties that bind Empty Re: The ties that bind on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 9:20 am

onthinice

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Very true, TrekMD!

7The ties that bind Empty Re: The ties that bind on Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:41 pm

sloan

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Just saw this tonight, which seems to call into quetsion the very possibility of humans getting along for the length of a trip necessary for exploration of Mars.

8The ties that bind Empty Re: The ties that bind on Tue 16 Jul 2013, 12:37 am

onthinice

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I had heard about the mars trip. Yep, it would have to be a married couple to journey that far.Laughing  Even then, I have my doubts.

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